37th President of the United States
Oh, what the hell, even, frankly, I don't want to have in the record discussions we've had in this room on Watergate. You know, we've discussed a lot of that stuff.
January of '72?
Right. I know. I know.
That it won't bust.
Your judgment as to where it stands and where we ought to go.
In other words, I've got to know why you would feel that our [unclear] something [unclear]-
Sure. Also, I want you to tell Newbrand if you will that [unclear] because he's a Catholic, sort of play it, he was for Jack Kennedy all the time. Play up to Kennedy, that "I'm a great admirer of Jack Kennedy." He's a member of the Holy ...
That's going to be fun.
He doesn't know what he's really getting into. We're going to cover him, and we are not going to take "no" for an answer. He can't say "no." The Kennedys are arrogant as hell with these Secret Service. He says, "Fine," and he should pick the ...
The thing that I [unclear] is this: we just might get lucky and catch this son-of-a-bitch and ruin him for '76.
He will go on [unclear].
And you'll talk to Newbrand?
And Rowley doesn't [unclear] Rowley doesn't bitch, now. [Unclear.]
I just wondered how you handled the--how you told Rowley you wanted Newbrand.
He requested it. [Unclear] because of threats. In other words, of course, that builds the son of a bitch up. And I wanted to be sure that we didn't [unclear].
OK. Fine. Incidentally, I want it to be damn clear that he requested it.
Right. No, that's really true. He has got to have the same coverage that we give the others, because we're concerned about security and we will not assume the responsibility unless we're with him all the time.
A big detail is correct. One that can cover him around the clock, every place he goes.
Does he understand that he's to do that?
[Secret Service Director James J.] Rowley is not to make the assignment. Does he understand? Rowley [unclear].
But he's not [unclear], as I understand.
That they all--and they all know that [unclear].
What man have you--have you assigned a man to him?
Now, the other thing that I want understood, have you covered with him the business of the [Edward] Kennedy coverage?
You call him. Good. Good deal. Play it tough. That’s the way they play it, and that’s the way we’re going to play it.
Well, I [unclear] Helms [unclear] get that closely involved.
All right, fine. I understand it all. We won’t second-guess Mitchell and the rest. Thank God it wasn’t [Charles] Colson.
Oh, Mitchell, Mitchell—is that the point that you made? [Unclear.]
Pressure from Mitchell?
I mean, he just isn’t well screwed on is he? Isn’t that the problem?
He didn’t know how it was going to be handled though, with Dahlberg and the Texans and so forth? Well, who was the asshole that did [unclear]? Is it [Gordon] Liddy? If that the fellow? He must be a little nuts.
Of course, this is a—[E. Howard] Hunt will—that will uncover a lot of—he had a lot of [unclear] when you open that scab there’s a hell of a lot of things and then “we just feel that this would be very detrimental to have this thing ...
How do you call them in? I mean you just—well, we protected Helms from one hell of a lot of things.
All right, fine.
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